Daily Kos diarist SusanG is claiming the NYT plagiarized a blogger.
Maureen Dowd, Pulitizer Prize winner. Today. New York Times:
More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when the Bush crowd was looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.
Josh Marshall. Blogger. Last Thursday. Talking Points Memo:
More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when we were looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.
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UPDATE: Founding Bloggers’ reader “retired military” points out that the Dowd article now credits Marshall. Dowd’s explanation for this allegedly stems from a conversation Dowd had with a friend:
…we were going back and forth discussing the topic of the column and he made this point and i thought it was a good one and wanted to weave it in; i just didn’t realize it was josh marshall’s point, and we’ve now given him credit
This does not pass the sniff test, as one of Kos’ readers points out:
that even the commas fall in the same places. That’s some seriously detailed conversation she has.
UPDATE II, now with Photoshop!: Have you read Maureen’s book? We wonder if she wrote it, or if one of her assistants lifted it from a blogger and Dowd was too sloppy to make sure the person doing her job for her was doing it correctly.
Illustration by Drudge Potato Al
First off, my preface for all these cases is indeed alleged but note how nearly, if not all, of the highly publicized (or about to be highly publicized) cases of alleged plagiarism come from Democrats and the left?
Note how there is a required “lay low” time where they keep a quiet profile and then they slowly returned to their positions of authority. Hello, Doris Kearns Goodwin – presidential historian/talking head who got caught a few years ago but NBC is bringing her back in larger and larger doses. Hello JOSEPH BIDEN who had to DROP OUT of a previous presidential contest for speech plagiarism allegations.
Say hello to Maureen, everyone. Allegedly, of course.
I went to the Dowd piece and now is gives credit to Marshall.
Was Dowd’s ‘friend’ Joe Biden ??!!!
Don’t forget the Globes Mike Barnicle…..plagiarism may cost your job initially. But as MSNBC proves, that is soon forgotten and employment for these “thieves” continues. Dowd will keep on writing for the Times -you can be sure of that.
And, don’t forget that the New York Times employed and kept promoting known plagiarist and—putting it politely—storyteller, Jayson Blair… Yup, they kept promoting him even though they had massive complaints of “inaccuracies” from just about everyone.
And, then there’s New York Times’ writer Charlie LeDuff. In an article, he “invented” a couple of quotes by Lieutenant Commander Mike Beidler and his wife as Beidler was headed out to Iraq. After Beidler complained to the New York Times, senior editor Bill Borders wrote back to Beidler, saying Mr. LeDuff “thinks that he accurately represented his interview with you and your wife, and therefore so do I.”
So, bottom line – The New York Times editors will lie their butts off and cover this all up.
Cheers
“Dowd will keep on writing for the Times -you can be sure of that.” Hmmm, don’t you mean continue to steal/plagiarize?
I see nothing wrong in it.
It has long been concluded that NYT is getting its main information and feedback from KOs.
NYT = KO.
Nothing unusual. It’s NYT’s SOP nowadays. It’s part of the overall COST-CUTTING at NYT.
Be real, they don’t always plagiarize…
sometimes they just make shit up whole cloth!
May 18, 09 I have no doubt Maureen Dowd is guilty of plagiarism.
The entire NY Times newspaper is rift with writers, who it would
seem, routinely ” lift ” ideas and words from lesser known writers.
Backed by big corporate lawyers, who come out with guns blazing
at the first hint of trouble The NY Times and other corporate
writers, have no compunction about taking whatever strikes their
purpose/fancy ! Several years ago I sent a short story to the NY
Times, and was horrified when I noted bits and pieces of the story
were turning up in NY Times pieces ! The story was copyrighted,
but even this did not deter the thieves. Intellectual property is
personal property and backed by a copyright, which recognizes
legal ownership, this kind of theft is akin to any other form of
robbery. Madeleine Sloan
As a freelance writer of many decades, I’m not surprised at this, either.
Several years ago, I published in an on-line automotive magazine an article about the “black box” recorders in most new cars. A few weeks later the Times’ Sunday auto section had a, well, similar story by another freelancer–except that it followed my piece not word-for-word exactly, but certainly paragraph-by-paragraph. A clever ripoff, but I felt the fault was the other writer’s, not the Times editors. As to Dowd, she’s a clever writer but it is burdensome pounding out copy (and fresh ideas) on a regular basis, so I guess she just took the easy way. Motor City Mike
Shake the bag two or three times, with a flourish, say the magic words … Presto Chango. And there you have it, reformed journalist (witness Ashley Banfield’s return to the small screen).
Up is down, down is up [but the old gray street walker? She never stops stinking up da joint].