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	<title>Comments on: Pelosi And Hoyer Lie About Socialized Medicine: Test And Exams&#8230;&#8221;Without Paying A Dime Out-Of-Pocket&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like people are understanding what they want from the proposed health plan then getting upset over nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like people are understanding what they want from the proposed health plan then getting upset over nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole Sluis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Sluis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if President Obama would have wanted this type of healthcare when his youngest daughter at 6 weeks old contracted encephalitis?  If he had had this healthcare he would be raising an only child now!!  Wake up Americans!! Let your voice be heard.  What a joke Obama&#039;s town meeting was.  Talk about cleaning up the mess...Do you really think there were any Republicans in that hall?  This healthcare should be put to a referendum and the public should have the choice of choosing the healthcare provided to the Senate and Congress for the same price! Later...Carole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if President Obama would have wanted this type of healthcare when his youngest daughter at 6 weeks old contracted encephalitis?  If he had had this healthcare he would be raising an only child now!!  Wake up Americans!! Let your voice be heard.  What a joke Obama&#8217;s town meeting was.  Talk about cleaning up the mess&#8230;Do you really think there were any Republicans in that hall?  This healthcare should be put to a referendum and the public should have the choice of choosing the healthcare provided to the Senate and Congress for the same price! Later&#8230;Carole</p>
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		<title>By: Complaining About The Health System Plans? You&#8217;re Un-American. John Boehner Responds : Stop The ACLU</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51051</link>
		<dc:creator>Complaining About The Health System Plans? You&#8217;re Un-American. John Boehner Responds : Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Un-American &#124; Outside the Beltway &#124; Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51047</link>
		<dc:creator>Un-American &#124; Outside the Beltway &#124; Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Democrats channel the Bush Administration &#124; Political Byline</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51038</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrats channel the Bush Administration &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Founding Bloggers points out; this might true, if you do not count the levy of Taxes that will be put on the backs of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Kirsch, M.D</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51031</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kirsch, M.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not call them lies, as this sounds too harsh.  How &#039;bout massive distortions instead.  That&#039;s because Pelosi &amp; Co are on the ropes.  They are now facing two formidable adversaries - Time and Truth.  The August recess will give more time for the American people to absorb the truth, namely that Obamacare can&#039;t possibly deliver on its promise for more coverage, more quality with necessary cost controls.  If he were to ram it through, we would have lower quality care and higher deficits.  The public is catching on and they&#039;re increasingly skeptical. The &#039;messiah&#039; is an earthling after all.
www.MDWhistleblower.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not call them lies, as this sounds too harsh.  How &#8217;bout massive distortions instead.  That&#8217;s because Pelosi &#038; Co are on the ropes.  They are now facing two formidable adversaries &#8211; Time and Truth.  The August recess will give more time for the American people to absorb the truth, namely that Obamacare can&#8217;t possibly deliver on its promise for more coverage, more quality with necessary cost controls.  If he were to ram it through, we would have lower quality care and higher deficits.  The public is catching on and they&#8217;re increasingly skeptical. The &#8216;messiah&#8217; is an earthling after all.<br />
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		<title>By: Speaking freely is apparently now &#8216;Un-American&#8217; &#171; Scott&#8217;s Slant on Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51017</link>
		<dc:creator>Speaking freely is apparently now &#8216;Un-American&#8217; &#171; Scott&#8217;s Slant on Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/08/pelosi-and-hoyer-lie-about-socialized-medicine-test-and-exams-without-paying-a-dime-out-of-pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-51016</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A continuation of my above post -- Australia and Singapore have different classes of treatment, which (especially in Singapore) includes different qualities of doctors, facilities, treatments available, amenities available, and the cost structures per services offered are different. There is typically a direct relationship between the price you pay and the quality of room, treatment, and overall attention you get - at best it is on par with what I would expect from a medical facility or practitioner with a good reputation. At worst, it resembles a rather antiquated version of what you would receive in the US. Note that perspectives of treatment are somewhat different among healthcare practitioners trained in UK, Australia, NZ, Ireland and Asia in general -- and can vary considerably from those in the US. Again, not distinctly &quot;better&quot; quality or necessarily cheaper. I have no experience with these systems for life-threatening, critical illness or injury, so I cannot comment in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A continuation of my above post &#8212; Australia and Singapore have different classes of treatment, which (especially in Singapore) includes different qualities of doctors, facilities, treatments available, amenities available, and the cost structures per services offered are different. There is typically a direct relationship between the price you pay and the quality of room, treatment, and overall attention you get &#8211; at best it is on par with what I would expect from a medical facility or practitioner with a good reputation. At worst, it resembles a rather antiquated version of what you would receive in the US. Note that perspectives of treatment are somewhat different among healthcare practitioners trained in UK, Australia, NZ, Ireland and Asia in general &#8212; and can vary considerably from those in the US. Again, not distinctly &#8220;better&#8221; quality or necessarily cheaper. I have no experience with these systems for life-threatening, critical illness or injury, so I cannot comment in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, hate to tell Pelosi and company this, but I have lived for 7 years in two countries which have state-subsidized healthcare (Australia, Singapore) and it&#039;s not free - there are out-of-pocket expenses for office visits, doctor&#039;s consultation fees, pharmaceuticals, other therapies, etc., etc. If you are a low income case and need hospitalization, the state-subsidized plans general consist of basic room and board -- often open wards with up to 8 other people. In tropical humid Singapore, the cheapest option includes a hospital room without air conditioning (fans only)...but again, medical care is not free of charge. I will say that the quality of care overall for basic health needs is adequate -- but certainly NOT &quot;better&quot; than in the US, and not necessarily cheaper in local currency terms for some types of treatments/procedures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, hate to tell Pelosi and company this, but I have lived for 7 years in two countries which have state-subsidized healthcare (Australia, Singapore) and it&#8217;s not free &#8211; there are out-of-pocket expenses for office visits, doctor&#8217;s consultation fees, pharmaceuticals, other therapies, etc., etc. If you are a low income case and need hospitalization, the state-subsidized plans general consist of basic room and board &#8212; often open wards with up to 8 other people. In tropical humid Singapore, the cheapest option includes a hospital room without air conditioning (fans only)&#8230;but again, medical care is not free of charge. I will say that the quality of care overall for basic health needs is adequate &#8212; but certainly NOT &#8220;better&#8221; than in the US, and not necessarily cheaper in local currency terms for some types of treatments/procedures.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to demand resignations from Pelosi and Hoyer.  Nancy will not get much support from Dems. Obama will throw her under a BUS if enough of us demand she resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to demand resignations from Pelosi and Hoyer.  Nancy will not get much support from Dems. Obama will throw her under a BUS if enough of us demand she resign.</p>
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